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When asp3 just went out why we need asp+??!? Should we wait for ASP4?!?! good question!<BR>Want da answer?, with ASP+ u need to upgrade to windows 2000 Server and u will develop in windows 2000 so what a better way to give micro$$$$ some bucks<BR><BR>ricardo<BR>lisbon<BR><BR>Acutally the final version of ASP+ will be able to run on Windows 9X, NT Server 4, OR Windows 2000.<BR><BR>Also, ASP+ will be free, just like ASP is currently...I thought ASP3/+ were only supported with 2000 & IIS5, not NT4 & IIS4.<BR><BR>JohnWaiting for Godot.<BR><BR>You know and I know that is is not necessary to spare Microsoft major trouble. They are overdue for 5 - 10 years. <BR><BR>Do you see the internet run on ASP windows 2005.<BR>Makes me laugh. They own the client. Now they want to own the server and stop developing for the client. Are you not familiar with all that forced cookie crap going around? Did you see anything beside MS at Orlando. How about Disneyland. This site's start page has that MS goose **** color already.<BR><BR>And for god sake grow up and stop telling people that "Also, ASP+ will be free, just like ASP is currently...", abdominal nonsense.<BR><BR>As 'free' as Internet Explorer goes with a commercial stock keeping number at any computer store.<BR><BR>If you don't know any better I apologize.<BR><BR>From someone who read the Sam's 21 days ASP book and kicked it on day 22.<BR><BR>My verdict - stolen intellectual property and gibberish Baloney.<BR><BR>What did they give your for breakfast to forget about a meager 3 million shipped w2 - to pick publicly with developers for sucking up the latest MS PR stunt on non existing badly inplemented HTML for the server. It's not XML. It's MS XML stupid.<BR><BR>Your ASP enthusiasm get's its tombstone slightly behind Netscape's document.writeln() command of 1994? Have a good night.<BR>Tommorrow is another day. Try to align with those Zombies and make sure to blame YOUR generation.ASP 3.0 is only supported by Windows 2000. ASP+ beta is only supported by Windows 2000, but when ASP+ ships, ALL versions of Windows will support it (well, all win32 versions): Windows 9X, Windows NT, Windows 2000..."ALL versions of Windows will support it (well, all win32 versions): Windows 9X, Windows NT, Windows 2000..."<BR><BR>With the (fairly big) proviso that on Windows 9x systems it will deploy as a limited-functionality "Personal" version, ala PWS.<BR>This is really a development tool for the folks in the cheap seats, if you ask me. However, taking this further, I'm told there's no reason why one day it couldn't run on UNIX etc, assuming you only used a subset of the .NET class library.<BR><BR>Daniel Walker<BR>Wrox PressRight, with the NGWS runtime, it seems like it all could be ported to other platforms. Could you imagine if, with the runtime for your Solaris box, you could crack the Windows version of Office 11 and just start running it? This NGWS runtime seems very neat and seems to have the Java potential... of course, why would Microsoft extend their product line into Unix (i.e., away from Windows). (Fingers crossed, though...)<BR><BR>The neatest thing, though, is that you can use ASP+ AND ASP simultaneously... so, if you have Windows NT 4 and have some great ASP apps that you don't want to migrate to ASP+, you can still use them AND use ASP+... neato.What's he jealous of?????Oh, I thought ASP+ was just the next version of ASP, (after ASP 3.0), and if ASP 3 was only supported with IIS5/2000, then ASP+ would only work on that as well. Is it just another ASP.dll that runs with IIS? How does IIS support two versions of ASP at the same time?<BR><BR>John