now sorted took out width in the ad boxesHave you ever thought that you might be wasting people's time by posting the same question on so many different forums? I know it can't be against any rules because they're different forums, but maybe someone at Sitepoint, DevShed, or whereever else you've posted this question finds a good answer for you - people seeing it somewhere else won't know that and they'll be trying to help you or maybe giving the same advice as someone else without knowing that they're wasting their time. It just doesn't seem like a good thing to do.okay point taken