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Hovering over the li's makes the list-style-image disappear rather than switching to the one specigied and using full screen mode (F11) removes the stylesheet completely. I remember Opera kept removing the stylesheet in full screen mode on Windows too. Naturally it ignores what's in the stylesheet in small mode (shift+F11) because there's no styles defined yet for portable devices. But what's it doing with full screen? It using a different media type there?
EDIT:
Ok. I figured maybe the list-style-image thing might be happening because Opera wasn't loading the hover image because there was no reference to it in the html file. So I tried sticking a copy of the image in the footer and giving it display none. This didn't fix it but when I left the image there and took "display:none;" off, the list behaved as if the image was there (ie not going to a dot instead of the image and not altering the size of the containing <li>, but it didn't actually show the image. As if I'd given it "visibility:hidden;".Originally posted by Mr Herer
But what's it doing with full screen? It using a different media type there?
full screen takes off the stylesheet on skinneralamod.com as well
<style type="text/css" media="screen">@import "layout3.css";</style>
Yours also has "screen" as the only visual media type too. I guess it must be a media type we're missing. Better go get hunting.
The list images still have me stumped though. I mean it doesn't even make sense. You'd think it's antics with the display:none; image in the footer would be the other way round.Originally posted by rhsunderground
full screen takes off the stylesheet on skinneralamod.com as well
Found the solution for full screen mode in Opera. It selects projection as the media type for sull screen mode.
@media screen,projection {
I find to be a quick and satisfying solution. Rater than re-doing the whole lot.
so how would i implement that?Originally posted by rhsunderground
so how would i implement that?
<style type="text/css" media="screen,projection">@import "layout3.css";</style>thankee kindlyOriginally posted by rhsunderground
thankee kindly
No problem. Actually wouldn't have realized this if the question wasn't brought up. I got to thinking after reading your first reply, and remembered something I had seen at StopDesign (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.stopdesign.com/">http://www.stopdesign.com/</a><!-- m -->):
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="print" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/print.css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen, projection" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/master.css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen, projection" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/master_color.css" />
I didn't have time to test it, and when I came back, Mr. Herer had already done so. I'm assuming that my deduction was correct after all.Any ideas on the list images in opera though? I'm still stumped.Originally posted by Mr Herer
Any ideas on the list images in opera though? I'm still stumped.
Your site is down... I can't get to it to see what you mean.It is? Hmmm. Should be fine now. It goes down for people once in a while because my IP gets switched now and again.all i see is Beware the evil one
and its bedfellow
"MM_"
http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/
Works with Opera 7.02Originally posted by Fang
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/">http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/</a><!-- m -->
Works with Opera 7.02 not in 7.23. don't know what to tell youDoes a full URL work?Originally posted by Fang
Does a full URL work?
Nope. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/index.php">http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoo ... /index.php</a><!-- m -->
EDIT: P.S.
I'm on "Opera 7.54 Final" by the wayI've checked it out with 7.02 and 7.54
7.02 works with:
#nav li:hover, #nav li:active { blah blah }
unfortunately not in 7.54 which has worse support for pseudo-class selectors
The only x-browser way to implement this is background image swapping with the link pseudo-classThat's a bit wierd eh. Upgrade your browser by installing on older version. :/
I've also noticed that my version of Opera does not support any styles of any media type at all in handheld display mode (shift + F11). >_<
So much for it being ideal to use for designing for portable devices eh.
Nope. Wait. My mistake. Opera does apply stylesheets to the handheld media after all. Just ran into another Opera browser quirk. Opera does not seem to recognise @media handheld {} when it is actually inside a stylesheet. It appears that it needs to be declared as a handheld stylesheet before the file is read.
I could well be wrong here though, it might have been an error on my part as validating the stylesheet (when trying to have it support multiple media) brought up an error telling me there was no such thing as background-color:#hex;. For the life of me I couldn't see anything wrong, but there you g
pera has quite a few little bugs, even Charles has switched (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47449&highlight=opera">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showt ... ight=opera</a><!-- m -->) to FFOriginally posted by Fang
Opera has quite a few little bugs, even Charles has switched (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47449&highlight=opera">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showt ... ight=opera</a><!-- m -->) to FF
Whoa, I always wondered what browser he used.And to think I was contemplating paying for Opera toriginally posted by Jona
Whoa, I always wondered what browser he used.
lol, non computer ppl must think of us to be very weird when these are the things we wonder about other ppl
Strange how we gradually become so geeky without even realising it huh.Originally posted by pawky
lol, non computer ppl must think of us to be very weird when these are the things we wonder about other ppl
Originally posted by Mr Herer
Strange how we gradually become so geeky without even realising it huh.
Okay, guys... That's enough. You're gonna burn for that!
I'd prefer we didn't get off-topic, for the sake of the fora, however. I just had to respond to those hurtful posts.
Hovering over the li's makes the list-style-image disappear rather than switching to the one specigied and using full screen mode (F11) removes the stylesheet completely. I remember Opera kept removing the stylesheet in full screen mode on Windows too. Naturally it ignores what's in the stylesheet in small mode (shift+F11) because there's no styles defined yet for portable devices. But what's it doing with full screen? It using a different media type there?
EDIT:
Ok. I figured maybe the list-style-image thing might be happening because Opera wasn't loading the hover image because there was no reference to it in the html file. So I tried sticking a copy of the image in the footer and giving it display none. This didn't fix it but when I left the image there and took "display:none;" off, the list behaved as if the image was there (ie not going to a dot instead of the image and not altering the size of the containing <li>, but it didn't actually show the image. As if I'd given it "visibility:hidden;".Originally posted by Mr Herer
But what's it doing with full screen? It using a different media type there?
full screen takes off the stylesheet on skinneralamod.com as well
<style type="text/css" media="screen">@import "layout3.css";</style> Yours also has "screen" as the only visual media type too. I guess it must be a media type we're missing. Better go get hunting.
The list images still have me stumped though. I mean it doesn't even make sense. You'd think it's antics with the display:none; image in the footer would be the other way round.Originally posted by rhsunderground
full screen takes off the stylesheet on skinneralamod.com as well
Found the solution for full screen mode in Opera. It selects projection as the media type for sull screen mode.
@media screen,projection {
I find to be a quick and satisfying solution. Rater than re-doing the whole lot.
so how would i implement that?Originally posted by rhsunderground so how would i implement that?
<style type="text/css" media="screen,projection">@import "layout3.css";</style>thankee kindly
Originally posted by rhsunderground thankee kindly
No problem.
Actually wouldn't have realized this if the question wasn't brought up. I got to thinking after reading your first reply, and remembered something I had seen at StopDesign (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.stopdesign.com/">http://www.stopdesign.com/</a><!-- m -->):<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="print" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/print.css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen, projection" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/master.css" />
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen, projection" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/css/040902/master_color.css" />
I didn't have time to test it, and when I came back, Mr. Herer had already done so. I'm assuming that my deduction was correct after all.Any ideas on the list images in opera though? I'm still stumped.Originally posted by Mr Herer
Any ideas on the list images in opera though? I'm still stumped.
Your site is down... I can't get to it to see what you mean.It is? Hmmm. Should be fine now. It goes down for people once in a while because my IP gets switched now and again.all i see is Beware the evil one
and its bedfellow
"MM_"
http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/Works with Opera 7.02Originally posted by Fang
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/">http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/</a><!-- m -->
Works with Opera 7.02 not in 7.23. don't know what to tell you
Does a full URL work?Originally posted by Fang Does a full URL work?
Nope. <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoooo.com/blam/index.php">http://www.dootdootdoodydoodydootdoodoo ... /index.php</a><!-- m -->
EDIT: P.S.
I'm on "Opera 7.54 Final" by the wayI've checked it out with 7.02 and 7.54
7.02 works with:
#nav li:hover, #nav li:active { blah blah }
unfortunately not in 7.54 which has worse support for pseudo-class selectors
The only x-browser way to implement this is background image swapping with the link pseudo-classThat's a bit wierd eh. Upgrade your browser by installing on older version. :/
I've also noticed that my version of Opera does not support any styles of any media type at all in handheld display mode (shift + F11). >_<
So much for it being ideal to use for designing for portable devices eh.
Nope. Wait. My mistake. Opera does apply stylesheets to the handheld media after all. Just ran into another Opera browser quirk. Opera does not seem to recognise @media handheld {} when it is actually inside a stylesheet. It appears that it needs to be declared as a handheld stylesheet before the file is read.I could well be wrong here though, it might have been an error on my part as validating the stylesheet (when trying to have it support multiple media) brought up an error telling me there was no such thing as background-color:#hex;. For the life of me I couldn't see anything wrong, but there you g
pera has quite a few little bugs, even Charles has switched (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47449&highlight=opera">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showt ... ight=opera</a><!-- m -->) to FFOriginally posted by Fang Opera has quite a few little bugs, even Charles has switched (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47449&highlight=opera">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showt ... ight=opera</a><!-- m -->) to FF
Whoa, I always wondered what browser he used.
And to think I was contemplating paying for Opera toriginally posted by Jona Whoa, I always wondered what browser he used.
lol, non computer ppl must think of us to be very weird when these are the things we wonder about other ppl
Strange how we gradually become so geeky without even realising it huh.Originally posted by pawky lol, non computer ppl must think of us to be very weird when these are the things we wonder about other ppl
Originally posted by Mr Herer
Strange how we gradually become so geeky without even realising it huh.
Okay, guys... That's enough. You're gonna burn for that!
I'd prefer we didn't get off-topic, for the sake of the fora, however. I just had to respond to those hurtful posts.