hi there i am new to this forum (obiously)<br />
<br />
I need some help,<br />
using Frontpage i have built a site for some one who know nothing about html etc, one of the pages i have made has this include page tag <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="currentrequirements.html" TAG="BODY" --><br />
so that it will add text from that page which can be updated by the owner as a word doc saved as html doc which they then upload (the ideas is that they cant mess up the page/site accidently)<br />
<br />
my problem is this<br />
<br />
when i upload the site the info is displayed correctly but when i upload a new version of currentrequirements.html it does not display the current version<br />
<br />
i tried this line of code in the head<br />
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="thur,21 nov 2002 18:00:00 GMT"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache"><br />
to see if that improved thing but it did not change the page version displayed it is still the old page version even though it has been deleted and uploaded again<br />
<br />
i have asked the Host if they have a buffer that may hold old info but they dont<br />
they sugested that it may be my ISP buffering the page but different ISP and different computers still show the old version<br />
<br />
any ideas please<br />
<br />
time is against me<br />
__________________<!--content-->sounds like the local cache might be holding the old info.<br />
<br />
If using internet explorer hold the shift key and click on the refresh icon to force the page to be read from the internet instead of the local cache and see if that helps. If it does then its probably a browsing setting that needs changing. Servers typically do not cache pages that I am aware of.<!--content-->kevin <br />
<br />
i have deleted tempory internet files many times<br />
also this happeneds on different pcs and different dialups that have not looked at the pages before<br />
<br />
does anyony have a better way of including info from another file (ie a *.txt, *.doc *.htm, *.html file)<!--content-->a better way? yeah don't use frontpage extensions. you will want to look into serverside insludes (SSI) where the calling file needs to be .shtml<br />
<br />
<br />
search these boards for solution. and besides, pragma is not supported by IE and the hard refresh is ctrl-refresh not shift, that is NS.<br />
<br />
and welcome to the forums marcain
<!--content-->Hi Scoutt<br />
thanks for the reply <br />
I am completly devoid of any knowledge of SSI so could you be more specific and give me a fuller description so I know what i am looking for please<br />
<br />
Also does SSI work on any server or does it need to be supported by the server?<br />
<br />
If you have the time could you tell me about SSI and the benefits of using etc and any reference sources as well if pos ;-)<br />
<br />
many thanks<!--content-->SSI is simply a server side way to post data from one file into another as the page loads. SSI must be supported by the server (permissions). Some webhosts, especially the free ones, do not allow this. A number of web hosts do have their own proprietary tags through which they ackomplish them same.<br />
<br />
Here is an (albeit) technical description of SSI:<br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html">http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutori ... ludes.html</a><!-- m --><br />
<br />
Besides a few key pieces of server information, SSI's main task is to bring data together from several pages and display it as one.<!--content-->
<br />
I need some help,<br />
using Frontpage i have built a site for some one who know nothing about html etc, one of the pages i have made has this include page tag <!--webbot bot="Include" U-Include="currentrequirements.html" TAG="BODY" --><br />
so that it will add text from that page which can be updated by the owner as a word doc saved as html doc which they then upload (the ideas is that they cant mess up the page/site accidently)<br />
<br />
my problem is this<br />
<br />
when i upload the site the info is displayed correctly but when i upload a new version of currentrequirements.html it does not display the current version<br />
<br />
i tried this line of code in the head<br />
<meta http-equiv="Expires" content="thur,21 nov 2002 18:00:00 GMT"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Pragma" content="no-cache"><br />
to see if that improved thing but it did not change the page version displayed it is still the old page version even though it has been deleted and uploaded again<br />
<br />
i have asked the Host if they have a buffer that may hold old info but they dont<br />
they sugested that it may be my ISP buffering the page but different ISP and different computers still show the old version<br />
<br />
any ideas please<br />
<br />
time is against me<br />
__________________<!--content-->sounds like the local cache might be holding the old info.<br />
<br />
If using internet explorer hold the shift key and click on the refresh icon to force the page to be read from the internet instead of the local cache and see if that helps. If it does then its probably a browsing setting that needs changing. Servers typically do not cache pages that I am aware of.<!--content-->kevin <br />
<br />
i have deleted tempory internet files many times<br />
also this happeneds on different pcs and different dialups that have not looked at the pages before<br />
<br />
does anyony have a better way of including info from another file (ie a *.txt, *.doc *.htm, *.html file)<!--content-->a better way? yeah don't use frontpage extensions. you will want to look into serverside insludes (SSI) where the calling file needs to be .shtml<br />
<br />
<br />
search these boards for solution. and besides, pragma is not supported by IE and the hard refresh is ctrl-refresh not shift, that is NS.<br />
<br />
and welcome to the forums marcain
<!--content-->Hi Scoutt<br />thanks for the reply <br />
I am completly devoid of any knowledge of SSI so could you be more specific and give me a fuller description so I know what i am looking for please<br />
<br />
Also does SSI work on any server or does it need to be supported by the server?<br />
<br />
If you have the time could you tell me about SSI and the benefits of using etc and any reference sources as well if pos ;-)<br />
<br />
many thanks<!--content-->SSI is simply a server side way to post data from one file into another as the page loads. SSI must be supported by the server (permissions). Some webhosts, especially the free ones, do not allow this. A number of web hosts do have their own proprietary tags through which they ackomplish them same.<br />
<br />
Here is an (albeit) technical description of SSI:<br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutorials/includes.html">http://hoohoo.ncsa.uiuc.edu/docs/tutori ... ludes.html</a><!-- m --><br />
<br />
Besides a few key pieces of server information, SSI's main task is to bring data together from several pages and display it as one.<!--content-->