vBulletin 4.0 will take some time; as I've heard it will be 'revolutionary', so as we might expect from vBulletin, it has to take time to work on, so we won't see any crap from them. It's been some time since we've heard that they started working on vB v4, so I hope we will see some alpha or at least some screenshots soon.Gh0st said:Looks like we've got to wait till 3.7.11 / 12 is released, before we can get our hands on 4.0.