I have a set of three frames, one on top of the other, using the following code:<br />
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<FRAMESET ROWS="100, 640, 250" FRAMEBORDER="no" BORDER = "2" FRAMESPACING ="0"><br />
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<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Title" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Camera" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Control" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
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</FRAMESET><br />
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I cannot include the actual URL's for the files, as my network admin would kill me.<br />
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The problem is that, even when the viewing area in the window is smaller than the total height of the frames (100+640+250 = 990) there is no scrollbar down the left hand side, and the objects in the frames are cropped.<br />
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How do I get the page to just draw the frames down the page, and allow me to scroll down?<!--content-->The problem your having seems to me to be that you are using frames for something better suited to tables if you dont want scrolling you dont want a border you would be better with either a table and SSI or a table and iframes if i am wrong please can you show some sort of working example?<!--content-->How do I get the other html files to open in the table elements?<!--content-->If you can use ASP then i would recomend making a table with three rows and using the #include directive add in your pages an example and more info here <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp">http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp</a><!-- m --><!--content-->asp? When you say "If you can use it.." I take it you mean "If I have the software to use it..".<br />
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I did try those commands, but I could not see anything on the web page<!--content-->what are you using the frames for? do you need the frames for navigation? can you post a link to the site so we can have a look at the problem. the problem is i don't know where you want to go with this.<!--content-->I am sorry - i am unable to post a link to the site at this moment. I will try to describe what I am attempting in as clear a way as possible.<br />
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I am using a third party software which monitors process control. This software then outputs the information to a web-page via Java applets. This is all handled by the software, and I only have control over the design of the graphics and not the applet itself.<br />
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I am attempting to combine two of these applets, along with the output of a network camera into a single page. The page is split into three rows, with one applet acting as a navigation bar at the top, the camera view in the middle, and a second applet allowing user interface with the process control at the bottom.<br />
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As far as I can tell, the only possible way to do this is using frames which reference the applets and camera.<br />
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I can point you to something similar at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.sauter-headquarter.ch:8080/rahmen.html">http://www.sauter-headquarter.ch:8080/rahmen.html</a><!-- m -->. This is where I got the original idea from. Hoever, it still does not have a scrollbar for the whole page, just the frames.<br />
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I want a scrollbar for the whole page.<!--content-->Hi Horus,<br />
The reason you are not getting scrollbars in sizes smaller than your specified framepage size is because you have this in your frameset tags. SCROLLING="no". Change this to SCROLLING="auto" and it should solve your problem.<br />
Good luck.<!--content-->Addition:<br />
What I also suggest is that you allow your content frame to expand to different resolutions to suit your viewers. Use a wild card instead of fixed heights. If your middle frame contains your info which requires scrolling etc, change this FRAMESET ROWS="100, 640, 250" to FRAMESET ROWS="100, *, 250". Experement and see what works for you. I hope this helps sort out your frame probs
<!--content-->The problem is that I did not want resizable frames. The information going into the frames is a specific size, and I wanted the page itself to fit all three frames in.<!--content-->as far as i know you cannot do what you want, frames are in essance different pages viewed toghether on one page you cann scroll within each seperate frame but not all at the same time.<br />
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You could use iframes but this may not work for you if you do then make the page out of 2 iframes and one page i sugest your navigation page as the page for them to b on<!--content-->I think that I was beginning to reach that conlcusion myself. I guess that I shall have to rearrange the graphics from the third party software and alter the layout of the frames.<br />
<br />
It's not what I wanted, but it is what I'm going to have to do.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your help.<!--content-->
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<FRAMESET ROWS="100, 640, 250" FRAMEBORDER="no" BORDER = "2" FRAMESPACING ="0"><br />
<br />
<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Title" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Camera" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
<FRAME SRC=http://www.htmlforums.com/archive/index.php/"xxxx.html" NAME="Control" MARGINWIDTH="0" MARGINHEIGHT="0" SCROLLING="no" NORESIZE><br />
<br />
</FRAMESET><br />
<br />
<br />
I cannot include the actual URL's for the files, as my network admin would kill me.<br />
<br />
The problem is that, even when the viewing area in the window is smaller than the total height of the frames (100+640+250 = 990) there is no scrollbar down the left hand side, and the objects in the frames are cropped.<br />
<br />
How do I get the page to just draw the frames down the page, and allow me to scroll down?<!--content-->The problem your having seems to me to be that you are using frames for something better suited to tables if you dont want scrolling you dont want a border you would be better with either a table and SSI or a table and iframes if i am wrong please can you show some sort of working example?<!--content-->How do I get the other html files to open in the table elements?<!--content-->If you can use ASP then i would recomend making a table with three rows and using the #include directive add in your pages an example and more info here <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp">http://www.w3schools.com/asp/asp_incfiles.asp</a><!-- m --><!--content-->asp? When you say "If you can use it.." I take it you mean "If I have the software to use it..".<br />
<br />
I did try those commands, but I could not see anything on the web page<!--content-->what are you using the frames for? do you need the frames for navigation? can you post a link to the site so we can have a look at the problem. the problem is i don't know where you want to go with this.<!--content-->I am sorry - i am unable to post a link to the site at this moment. I will try to describe what I am attempting in as clear a way as possible.<br />
<br />
<br />
I am using a third party software which monitors process control. This software then outputs the information to a web-page via Java applets. This is all handled by the software, and I only have control over the design of the graphics and not the applet itself.<br />
<br />
I am attempting to combine two of these applets, along with the output of a network camera into a single page. The page is split into three rows, with one applet acting as a navigation bar at the top, the camera view in the middle, and a second applet allowing user interface with the process control at the bottom.<br />
<br />
As far as I can tell, the only possible way to do this is using frames which reference the applets and camera.<br />
<br />
I can point you to something similar at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.sauter-headquarter.ch:8080/rahmen.html">http://www.sauter-headquarter.ch:8080/rahmen.html</a><!-- m -->. This is where I got the original idea from. Hoever, it still does not have a scrollbar for the whole page, just the frames.<br />
<br />
I want a scrollbar for the whole page.<!--content-->Hi Horus,<br />
The reason you are not getting scrollbars in sizes smaller than your specified framepage size is because you have this in your frameset tags. SCROLLING="no". Change this to SCROLLING="auto" and it should solve your problem.<br />
Good luck.<!--content-->Addition:<br />
What I also suggest is that you allow your content frame to expand to different resolutions to suit your viewers. Use a wild card instead of fixed heights. If your middle frame contains your info which requires scrolling etc, change this FRAMESET ROWS="100, 640, 250" to FRAMESET ROWS="100, *, 250". Experement and see what works for you. I hope this helps sort out your frame probs
<!--content-->The problem is that I did not want resizable frames. The information going into the frames is a specific size, and I wanted the page itself to fit all three frames in.<!--content-->as far as i know you cannot do what you want, frames are in essance different pages viewed toghether on one page you cann scroll within each seperate frame but not all at the same time.<br /><br />
You could use iframes but this may not work for you if you do then make the page out of 2 iframes and one page i sugest your navigation page as the page for them to b on<!--content-->I think that I was beginning to reach that conlcusion myself. I guess that I shall have to rearrange the graphics from the third party software and alter the layout of the frames.<br />
<br />
It's not what I wanted, but it is what I'm going to have to do.<br />
<br />
Thanks for your help.<!--content-->