I have this site at uogameresources (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.uogameresources.com">http://www.uogameresources.com</a><!-- m -->) and it has a few problems with netscape. I built it to work with internet explorer, but recentely I decided to Download <!--more--> another browser and see if it works the same, but it don't. With ie, all the links that i've finished(from top to baja) work and load fine in the main browser and the banners show up properly. With netscape, if you click on home, it loads a blank page except for the background, one of the banners I have set up with javascript don't show up, and one of the gold chains in the title don't show up. Should I make a completely differen't frame for netscape or something and make it load up with javascript? I've never done that before, making a completely new frame seems difficult. If I can fix it to work with both browsers, that would be cool.<!--content-->For your home link problem:<br />
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you have <a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"" target="_top"><br />
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Since you haven't specified a page, the browser loads the current page which is the menu page, all by itself. To avoid this do <a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"frameset-page.html" target="_top"><!--content-->There may be a compatibility problem with the code for Netscape. I suppose you wanted to find that out, is why you Download <!--more-->ed another the NS Browser. I think you did!<br />
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Instead of working so hard on code you do not understand, why don't you do a search for code that is compatible. Then start doing your pages a little simpler at first. When you understand more you can do some of the things you would like without the effort. I hope that makes sense to you. Cheers
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PS I see you did it in NotePad, a Microsoft product. Try a better html editor. there are some free ones out there that can do better.<!--content-->I fixed that link. I changed it to index.html. With ie you only need to put "" and that automatically loads the main page, but netscape has to be difficult about things'. As for the banner, netscape doesn't allow javascript inside table tags', at least not for this situation. What difference would using a differen't text editer do?<!--content-->Microsoft makes their products to be compatible with their other products above all others. So it codes for Microsoft first. Netscape did the same. But third party products have to satisfy the users of both. <br />
If you were to do some basic code in a very simple editor, and then run it through one of these MS WYSIWYG editors, it may double the amount of code to do the same things. It will change the code around so much that you will have a harder time to decipher it. Most of all it may end up not being compatible with other Browsers. That's why I said a different Editor.<!--content-->I assume Notepad means that you handcoded the pages yourself?<br />
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In that case that is not your problem, however you are using pretty broken and nonvalid HTML to make your pages.<br />
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The easiest way to make cross browser and OS compatible webpages is to start coding according to the HTML specs.<br />
<br />
If you start your pages based on eg this template and click the button (when the page is placed online) you will get a report of your errors<br />
<br />
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"><br />
<html><br />
<head><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Script-Type" content="text/javascript"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css"><br />
<title></title><br />
<link href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" title="Default" media="screen"><br />
</head><br />
<body><br />
<br />
<p><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px" src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" alt="Valid HTML 4.01!" /></a><br />
</p><br />
</body><br />
</html><br />
<br />
For your frameset you nees something like this<br />
<br />
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/frameset.dtd"><br />
<html><br />
<head><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><br />
<title></title><br />
</head><br />
<frameset cols="100, 1*" border="0"> <!-- border="0" is a bugfix for incorrect frameborder=0 support in IE, NS as well as Opera --><br />
<frame name="nav" src=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"nav.html" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1" scrolling="auto"><br />
<frame name="main" src=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.html" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1" scrolling="auto"><br />
<noframes><br />
<body><br />
<p><br />
Frames are not working in your Browser.<br><br />
You can reach the respective pages on the frames via these links<br><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"nav.html">Navigation</a><br><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.html">Main</a><br />
</p><br />
</body><br />
</noframes><br />
</frameset><br />
</html><br />
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Also a good advice is to use latest Opera 7 or Mozilla/Netscape to test you pages in as you go along. They are the most correctly working browsers, so if something doesn't look ritght in them you have probably made an error.<!--content-->Mozilla rocks. It displays things the way they should be displayed. Its much easier to find an error and correct it.<br />
<br />
For a casual "webmaster", IE is great because its so forgiving. But it sucks if you want to do any serious coding. "It looks good in IE" doesn't mean that there isnt a problem with the HTML code. A couple of years later, when you have added 50 more pages, you realize that you made a mistake 2 years back, kept repeating it over time. And now, with new browsers, spoof, its all crap now!! I now feel that its better to be strict right in the begining than face huge problems later on.<!--content-->Awhile ago I once tryed to make a page validate, but there was soo many errors' that I just gave up. I don''t know too much about how to place a proper declaration. I plan on learning someday, but i'm sorta trying to master writing crap code or maybe I already have... I guess I can try to validate it, but I dunno what version of code i'm using. It's mixed i'm sure.<!--content-->
<br />
you have <a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"" target="_top"><br />
<br />
Since you haven't specified a page, the browser loads the current page which is the menu page, all by itself. To avoid this do <a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"frameset-page.html" target="_top"><!--content-->There may be a compatibility problem with the code for Netscape. I suppose you wanted to find that out, is why you Download <!--more-->ed another the NS Browser. I think you did!<br />
<br />
Instead of working so hard on code you do not understand, why don't you do a search for code that is compatible. Then start doing your pages a little simpler at first. When you understand more you can do some of the things you would like without the effort. I hope that makes sense to you. Cheers
<br /><br />
PS I see you did it in NotePad, a Microsoft product. Try a better html editor. there are some free ones out there that can do better.<!--content-->I fixed that link. I changed it to index.html. With ie you only need to put "" and that automatically loads the main page, but netscape has to be difficult about things'. As for the banner, netscape doesn't allow javascript inside table tags', at least not for this situation. What difference would using a differen't text editer do?<!--content-->Microsoft makes their products to be compatible with their other products above all others. So it codes for Microsoft first. Netscape did the same. But third party products have to satisfy the users of both. <br />
If you were to do some basic code in a very simple editor, and then run it through one of these MS WYSIWYG editors, it may double the amount of code to do the same things. It will change the code around so much that you will have a harder time to decipher it. Most of all it may end up not being compatible with other Browsers. That's why I said a different Editor.<!--content-->I assume Notepad means that you handcoded the pages yourself?<br />
<br />
In that case that is not your problem, however you are using pretty broken and nonvalid HTML to make your pages.<br />
<br />
The easiest way to make cross browser and OS compatible webpages is to start coding according to the HTML specs.<br />
<br />
If you start your pages based on eg this template and click the button (when the page is placed online) you will get a report of your errors<br />
<br />
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"><br />
<html><br />
<head><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Script-Type" content="text/javascript"><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css"><br />
<title></title><br />
<link href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" title="Default" media="screen"><br />
</head><br />
<body><br />
<br />
<p><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"http://validator.w3.org/check/referer"><img style="border:0;width:88px;height:31px" src="http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-html401" alt="Valid HTML 4.01!" /></a><br />
</p><br />
</body><br />
</html><br />
<br />
For your frameset you nees something like this<br />
<br />
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/frameset.dtd"><br />
<html><br />
<head><br />
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><br />
<title></title><br />
</head><br />
<frameset cols="100, 1*" border="0"> <!-- border="0" is a bugfix for incorrect frameborder=0 support in IE, NS as well as Opera --><br />
<frame name="nav" src=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"nav.html" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1" scrolling="auto"><br />
<frame name="main" src=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.html" frameborder="0" marginwidth="1" marginheight="1" scrolling="auto"><br />
<noframes><br />
<body><br />
<p><br />
Frames are not working in your Browser.<br><br />
You can reach the respective pages on the frames via these links<br><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"nav.html">Navigation</a><br><br />
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"main.html">Main</a><br />
</p><br />
</body><br />
</noframes><br />
</frameset><br />
</html><br />
<br />
Also a good advice is to use latest Opera 7 or Mozilla/Netscape to test you pages in as you go along. They are the most correctly working browsers, so if something doesn't look ritght in them you have probably made an error.<!--content-->Mozilla rocks. It displays things the way they should be displayed. Its much easier to find an error and correct it.<br />
<br />
For a casual "webmaster", IE is great because its so forgiving. But it sucks if you want to do any serious coding. "It looks good in IE" doesn't mean that there isnt a problem with the HTML code. A couple of years later, when you have added 50 more pages, you realize that you made a mistake 2 years back, kept repeating it over time. And now, with new browsers, spoof, its all crap now!! I now feel that its better to be strict right in the begining than face huge problems later on.<!--content-->Awhile ago I once tryed to make a page validate, but there was soo many errors' that I just gave up. I don''t know too much about how to place a proper declaration. I plan on learning someday, but i'm sorta trying to master writing crap code or maybe I already have... I guess I can try to validate it, but I dunno what version of code i'm using. It's mixed i'm sure.<!--content-->