when its comes to personal web servers, well, what exactly are they? are they meant for intranet only? and for testing out a site before putting it up? Can i use the personal web server with windows98 (or w/e OS) and have people on the internet able to access it? i read the help file and stuff and im still confused... and.. is it safe? or can it easily be hacked?<br />
when i read the help and all, it said you connect through proxy (that is if your not connected through the network) so, i was supposed to edit a Hosts file and all, (didnt have to) theres a hole thing of proxy stuff etc. and i was able to view the site through internet explorer. but, is there anyway i can direct people strate through without having to type all the proxy stuff?. thx<!--content-->use apache(http) web server,its the best and doesnt have much security holes...<br />
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<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://apache.org">http://apache.org</a><!-- m --><!--content-->Just butting in here, seeing as you seemt to know about apache..............<br />
<br />
a) i can't install a windows server on windows xp home, but is it still possible to have apache on home?<br />
b) i went to the 'Download <!--more-->' page of the apache site, but i couldn't work out how to finally Download <!--more--> it, i could go through all the information on it, but i couldn't confirm and start Download <!--more-->ing<br />
c) i've found a few decent books to help me learn php, some of which come with a CD rom with apache on it. is this a 'proper' version and will it work?<!--content-->if i use apache.. will my internet provider care? do i have to pay anything to set up my website on a personal server? and do i need to register anything etc?<!--content-->You've really got two questions here.<br />
<br />
1. What web server should I use?<br />
<br />
A. Apache is my favorite and is by far the favorite of the Internet at large. It runs well on Win98 and essentially every other OS in the world.<br />
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2. Does the agreement I have with my ISP allow me to expose a web (or any other kind of) server to the Internet?<br />
<br />
A. In general for a personal account, no.<!--content-->If you are on a Windows server, and plan to run PHP, I'd use Apache 1.3.29 (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_1.3.29-win32-x86-no_src.exe">http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apac ... no_src.exe</a><!-- m -->). The reason I recommend this version over 2.0.48 is PHP's support for that is currently "experimental".<!--content-->You might also want to check out these sites that take some of the guess work out of installing a personal web server on your windows pc:<br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.apachefriends.org/index-en.html">http://www.apachefriends.org/index-en.html</a><!-- m --><br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.firepages.com.au/">http://www.firepages.com.au/</a><!-- m --><br />
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I use the second one for developement of PHP and MySql and it works well on my Windows 2000 machine.<!--content-->well, i went to Download <!--more-->.com amd checked out what programs they had there, i found a pretty good one completely free so im gonna try that one out for a while. apache seemed a lil advanced for me, and i dose off when i have to start reading a bunch of help files. apache seemed really advanced and im not going to be using php or asp. ill probably use cgi, VB6, and javascript. then if i have problems ill check out apache again.<br />
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thx guys<!--content-->if you are using xp pro or w2k pro toss in your install disk and instal iis. iis5 has some security holes so you will need to take some precautions, such as not putting right accessing your main directory etc (iis6 on w2k3 cleaned up a lot of these holes), but iis runs well of windows nt based operating systems and supports a very wide range of technologys, includeing asp, asp.net, php, shtml, etc.<br />
edit: nevermind you are on windows 98.<!--content-->Originally posted by PeOfEo <br />
install disk and instal iis......... <br />
<br />
Yep..run IIS on your machine and then get ready to update your OS every week from windows update site for a new "Serious Security Hole" found in IIS...lol...thats funny you even recomended...
<!--content-->heh, atleast ms is patching the problems as people find them. IIS 6 is very secure compared to iis5. Its just that ii6 only comes with w2k3 right now. I aggree iis 5 has security holes and is proned to crashing, but if you have a nice adaptive firewall on your router, and you are only running a personal site it works fine. I mean you can run so much stuff from iis, its just a conveiniance thing for me.<!--content-->Another web page that makes install Apache easy (step-bypstep instructions) is here: 4WebHelp (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.4webhelp.net/tutorials/cgi/local.php">http://www.4webhelp.net/tutorials/cgi/local.php</a><!-- m -->) <br />
It also includes instructions for installing PHP, Perl, and MySql.<!--content-->
when i read the help and all, it said you connect through proxy (that is if your not connected through the network) so, i was supposed to edit a Hosts file and all, (didnt have to) theres a hole thing of proxy stuff etc. and i was able to view the site through internet explorer. but, is there anyway i can direct people strate through without having to type all the proxy stuff?. thx<!--content-->use apache(http) web server,its the best and doesnt have much security holes...<br />
<br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://apache.org">http://apache.org</a><!-- m --><!--content-->Just butting in here, seeing as you seemt to know about apache..............<br />
<br />
a) i can't install a windows server on windows xp home, but is it still possible to have apache on home?<br />
b) i went to the 'Download <!--more-->' page of the apache site, but i couldn't work out how to finally Download <!--more--> it, i could go through all the information on it, but i couldn't confirm and start Download <!--more-->ing<br />
c) i've found a few decent books to help me learn php, some of which come with a CD rom with apache on it. is this a 'proper' version and will it work?<!--content-->if i use apache.. will my internet provider care? do i have to pay anything to set up my website on a personal server? and do i need to register anything etc?<!--content-->You've really got two questions here.<br />
<br />
1. What web server should I use?<br />
<br />
A. Apache is my favorite and is by far the favorite of the Internet at large. It runs well on Win98 and essentially every other OS in the world.<br />
<br />
2. Does the agreement I have with my ISP allow me to expose a web (or any other kind of) server to the Internet?<br />
<br />
A. In general for a personal account, no.<!--content-->If you are on a Windows server, and plan to run PHP, I'd use Apache 1.3.29 (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apache/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_1.3.29-win32-x86-no_src.exe">http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/apac ... no_src.exe</a><!-- m -->). The reason I recommend this version over 2.0.48 is PHP's support for that is currently "experimental".<!--content-->You might also want to check out these sites that take some of the guess work out of installing a personal web server on your windows pc:<br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.apachefriends.org/index-en.html">http://www.apachefriends.org/index-en.html</a><!-- m --><br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.firepages.com.au/">http://www.firepages.com.au/</a><!-- m --><br />
<br />
I use the second one for developement of PHP and MySql and it works well on my Windows 2000 machine.<!--content-->well, i went to Download <!--more-->.com amd checked out what programs they had there, i found a pretty good one completely free so im gonna try that one out for a while. apache seemed a lil advanced for me, and i dose off when i have to start reading a bunch of help files. apache seemed really advanced and im not going to be using php or asp. ill probably use cgi, VB6, and javascript. then if i have problems ill check out apache again.<br />
<br />
thx guys<!--content-->if you are using xp pro or w2k pro toss in your install disk and instal iis. iis5 has some security holes so you will need to take some precautions, such as not putting right accessing your main directory etc (iis6 on w2k3 cleaned up a lot of these holes), but iis runs well of windows nt based operating systems and supports a very wide range of technologys, includeing asp, asp.net, php, shtml, etc.<br />
edit: nevermind you are on windows 98.<!--content-->Originally posted by PeOfEo <br />
install disk and instal iis......... <br />
<br />
Yep..run IIS on your machine and then get ready to update your OS every week from windows update site for a new "Serious Security Hole" found in IIS...lol...thats funny you even recomended...
<!--content-->heh, atleast ms is patching the problems as people find them. IIS 6 is very secure compared to iis5. Its just that ii6 only comes with w2k3 right now. I aggree iis 5 has security holes and is proned to crashing, but if you have a nice adaptive firewall on your router, and you are only running a personal site it works fine. I mean you can run so much stuff from iis, its just a conveiniance thing for me.<!--content-->Another web page that makes install Apache easy (step-bypstep instructions) is here: 4WebHelp (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.4webhelp.net/tutorials/cgi/local.php">http://www.4webhelp.net/tutorials/cgi/local.php</a><!-- m -->) <br />It also includes instructions for installing PHP, Perl, and MySql.<!--content-->