"no frames" version

liunx · Jan 9, 2008

I would very much appreciate any help someone could give me regarding a framed site I have created. 
 
I initially used Cutesite Builder to create it. Cutesite puts in a "no frames" version. I have tweaked the html in all the files of the site. 
 
I have two questions: 
 
1. I checked the site using Opera set to no frames and initially the site homepage appears- strange looking, but after clicking on one of the site links that do show, it kicks in to the proper "no frames" version. Can anyone tell me why this might be happening and how to fix it? 
 
2. Does having the alternate "no frames" version in my site slow it down very much? There are many images, including a slide show. If it does slow it down -- I don't really need the "no frames" version. Is there a way I can edit or eliminate it? ( I have tried to eliminate the images from within the frameset file, but they seemed to "come back". ) 
 
If you would like to take a look at the site, it is <a class="postlink" href="http://www.newmexicosoundrecordist.com">http://www.newmexicosoundrecordist.com</a> 
 
Thank you very much. 
JaneYour noframes page is written all within the <noframes> </noframes> tags. I would recommend just making a whole new page and in the <noframes> section put: 
 
<head> 
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="1;url=youraltpage.html"> 
</head> 
<body> 
You are being redirected 
</body>I don't think you can put a <head> section inside a <noframes> element, only a <body> element; so you should do something more like: 
 
 
<frameset ...> 
 
<noframes><body> 
Please go to the 
<a href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"no_frames.htm>No-frames section</a> of my site. 
</body></noframes> 
</frameset> 
 
 
And to answer one of the original questions it won't slow your site down. 
 
By the way, you have the wrong doctype in there for your frameset page, you should have this instead: 
 
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Frameset//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/frameset.dtd">I've put a <head> section in a noframes section before. I don't know if it works or not because I can't figure out how to turn frames off in IE 5.5 for testing lol. You should probably use this instead: 
 
<body onLoad="redirect();"> 
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript"> 
 
function redirect() { 
top.location.href = <a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/</a>"alt-page.html"; 
return true; 
} 
 
</script> 
</body>Originally posted by Zach Elfers 
I've put a <head> section in a noframes section before. I don't know if it works or not because I can't figure out how to turn frames off in IE 5.5 for testing lol. 
 
 
You are not allowed to have multiple <head> sections on a webpage so obviously you can't have one in the <noframes> section on the page. 
If it works it's 100% depending on errorcorrection in browsers and relying in that a very weak coding approach. 
 
 
You should probably use this instead: 
<body onLoad="redirect();"> 
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/JavaScript"> 
 
function redirect() { 
top.location.href = <a class="postlink" href="http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/">http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/</a>"alt-page.html"; 
return true; 
} 
 
</script> 
</body> [/B] 
 
A browser not working with frames is very likely to not work with javascript either, so you will still need the regular <a href> link. If you feel the JS redirect is in any way usefull, you could provide it in addition to the link.Thank you for your help, Zach, Rick and Stefan. 
 
I will mull over the information you have all given me and then use it to work on my site. 
 
I really appreciate it. 
 
JaneOriginally posted by Stefan 
You are not allowed to have multiple <head> sections on a webpage so obviously you can't have one in the <noframes> section on the page. 
If it works it's 100% depending on errorcorrection in browsers and relying in that a very weak coding approach. 
 
 
 
A browser not working with frames is very likely to not work with javascript either, so you will still need the regular <a href> link. If you feel the JS redirect is in any way usefull, you could provide it in addition to the link. 
 
hmm... good point. I never thought of the JavaScript thing.

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