Googles PR was an interesting experiment, but it was doomed from the start. Just like the keyword meta tag, people learn't how to play it and how to abuse it. It is the spammers of the world who keep the search engines developing new and better algorithms and we should thank them for this.Google have obviously lost interest in their own PR system, we knew this when they started doing their quaterly updates. It's time for a new SEO craze .... it's time for "Trust Rank".The SEO discussion forums are going crazy over the fact that the toolbar PR has dissapeared. Every site around the world is currently "Greyed Out" Will it come back? Who cares .... Lets take a look at "Trust Rank" - Heres the Stanford White Paper For it -http://dbpubs.stanford.edu:8090/pub/sho ... 004-52.pdfIn a nutshell though it sets up authority trusted sites, and non trusted sites. It does this by manually looking at clusters, and tagging the sites that use spam techniques. Sites that then link to these bad sites will be punished, while sites that stay away from them will be rewarded and sites that get linked to from these 'trusted' sites will be rewarded best of all.Quote:by clicking on that link has frozen my comp...Fitness4Living wrote:On what sites/forum did you see it(Except webmasterworld) Jess wrote
ead or not remains to be seen. However, it still should not deter webmasters from administering good SEO practices. I'm inclined to agree with Jess. PR was never something I paid much attention to anyway. From the time I started applying good SEO practices (excepting the short two month period after the feb 05 update) I have had the bulk of my prefered keywords and key phrases place in the top ten or twenty consistantly. And all I'm doing is just simply applying the advice of the SEO experts. I avoid link farms, I attempt to get backlinks on related sites, and I work very hard to make sure my content is search engine friendly. As long as that continues to work, I don't care if PR is ever available again. Our site has / had) a PR of 4, and yet, our primary key phrase is now number 1 out of over 600,000 results for a very generic phrase. I'll take that any day of the week, since it also happens to be our domain name phrase.Take a look here: http://toolbar.google.com/index_2No PR on the bar thank you for that post jess, very interesting PDF. im glad i didnt impliment any of the bad techniques listed in it. its an ever changing world.After a lil research: What happened to Google PageRank? -Maybe it's just an update, but it would be very improbable. -Maybe they're hiding the PageRank from us, so that we can't view our PageRank anymore. -As many figured out to 'hack' PageRank, they are gonna change PageRank and have Trust Rank instead. Just google it if you want to know something more about Trust Rank. My opinion: I have some proof, I will show you them, so I really think they're gonna remove it. 1. PageRank = the end, will be replaced by Trust Rank. 2. PageRank = the 'end', we will not be able to view it anymore. 3. It isn't just a fix or update. Proof: -As you can notice, the Google PageRank bar is GREY. Normally, you got a white bar when you got 0/10. -English GooglePR site: http://toolbar.google.com/, as you can see on the 'screenshot', there's no more PageRank on it. So Google changed the imaged and deleted PageRank, that WAS on it earlier. Check another language of the site, and you'll see the image WITH the PageRank on it, so that's obvious that they deleted it. Ok, well that's it, that's all I know. I hope this post was useful for you all.I have noticed that the pagerank bar to the left of listings in the google directory still appear. If you click on that bar it still takes you to the page explaining their pagerank technology.I will say that the only real value I saw in pagerank is what I had for the informational sites and directories I use for trading links. There is such a focus on pagerank people want a reciprocal from a page with good pagerank. With that it was easier to get people to agree.Yambot wrote:What's the point of this conversation? Unflux used to have as his signature " the only constant is change" (or something close to that) -- so Google wants to change? I say let them. Don't get stuck in a rut and run with the dogs.Hi,Google toolbar PR has disappeared many times before.My guess is this is just a change in the way the PR value is sent tothe toolbar from the datacenter.This will make all the new PR "finder" software useless until thevendor or script author figures out the new code.QUOTE:"Google Toolbar 3 out - grey bars everywhere (Marketing Fan - Internet Advertising and Marketing tricks, 2005-03-04)New Google Toolbar 3 beta is out... see this Google toolbar post for some features... Interesting find is that many sites - big ones, even Google itself show grey bars... which means that the PR query and checksum was changed..."quoted from: http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/seo- ... c-1219.htmThat article was written about three months ago.To learn more about this just search for 'pagerank checksum'The auto-updating toolbar is currently Version 2.0.114.9just one man's thoughts.BompaIf Goolge is not willing to display a Google PR system then someones else will come up with another way of presenting PR on another based fashion.One way or another, there will be some kind of system from todays date on that will estimate a websites importance among the www .No more PageRank ...... Interesting, this issue has been widely discussed all over the world, I have seen this Section in almost all site and forums that i visit.
ead or not remains to be seen. However, it still should not deter webmasters from administering good SEO practices. I'm inclined to agree with Jess. PR was never something I paid much attention to anyway. From the time I started applying good SEO practices (excepting the short two month period after the feb 05 update) I have had the bulk of my prefered keywords and key phrases place in the top ten or twenty consistantly. And all I'm doing is just simply applying the advice of the SEO experts. I avoid link farms, I attempt to get backlinks on related sites, and I work very hard to make sure my content is search engine friendly. As long as that continues to work, I don't care if PR is ever available again. Our site has / had) a PR of 4, and yet, our primary key phrase is now number 1 out of over 600,000 results for a very generic phrase. I'll take that any day of the week, since it also happens to be our domain name phrase.Take a look here: http://toolbar.google.com/index_2No PR on the bar thank you for that post jess, very interesting PDF. im glad i didnt impliment any of the bad techniques listed in it. its an ever changing world.After a lil research: What happened to Google PageRank? -Maybe it's just an update, but it would be very improbable. -Maybe they're hiding the PageRank from us, so that we can't view our PageRank anymore. -As many figured out to 'hack' PageRank, they are gonna change PageRank and have Trust Rank instead. Just google it if you want to know something more about Trust Rank. My opinion: I have some proof, I will show you them, so I really think they're gonna remove it. 1. PageRank = the end, will be replaced by Trust Rank. 2. PageRank = the 'end', we will not be able to view it anymore. 3. It isn't just a fix or update. Proof: -As you can notice, the Google PageRank bar is GREY. Normally, you got a white bar when you got 0/10. -English GooglePR site: http://toolbar.google.com/, as you can see on the 'screenshot', there's no more PageRank on it. So Google changed the imaged and deleted PageRank, that WAS on it earlier. Check another language of the site, and you'll see the image WITH the PageRank on it, so that's obvious that they deleted it. Ok, well that's it, that's all I know. I hope this post was useful for you all.I have noticed that the pagerank bar to the left of listings in the google directory still appear. If you click on that bar it still takes you to the page explaining their pagerank technology.I will say that the only real value I saw in pagerank is what I had for the informational sites and directories I use for trading links. There is such a focus on pagerank people want a reciprocal from a page with good pagerank. With that it was easier to get people to agree.Yambot wrote:What's the point of this conversation? Unflux used to have as his signature " the only constant is change" (or something close to that) -- so Google wants to change? I say let them. Don't get stuck in a rut and run with the dogs.Hi,Google toolbar PR has disappeared many times before.My guess is this is just a change in the way the PR value is sent tothe toolbar from the datacenter.This will make all the new PR "finder" software useless until thevendor or script author figures out the new code.QUOTE:"Google Toolbar 3 out - grey bars everywhere (Marketing Fan - Internet Advertising and Marketing tricks, 2005-03-04)New Google Toolbar 3 beta is out... see this Google toolbar post for some features... Interesting find is that many sites - big ones, even Google itself show grey bars... which means that the PR query and checksum was changed..."quoted from: http://www.webrankinfo.com/english/seo- ... c-1219.htmThat article was written about three months ago.To learn more about this just search for 'pagerank checksum'The auto-updating toolbar is currently Version 2.0.114.9just one man's thoughts.BompaIf Goolge is not willing to display a Google PR system then someones else will come up with another way of presenting PR on another based fashion.One way or another, there will be some kind of system from todays date on that will estimate a websites importance among the www .No more PageRank ...... Interesting, this issue has been widely discussed all over the world, I have seen this Section in almost all site and forums that i visit.