I just got a new laptop with XP (my first comp with XP) and found an interesting phenomena. My entire page size has been blown up 25% or so. Even the graphics are like 25% larger.
While I normally wouldn't care much, it is messing things up as I have a sizing error that isn't showing up in NS and I can't seem to track it down because I cannot measure against the PSD to find out where the errant 2 pixels are.
Has anybody else noticed this? Is there a way to turn it off? Is there a known work around for it?I'm getting mixed impressions here, so I'll try to answer them both.
If the entire site is 25% larger then perhaps a zoom has been enabled. (I did not thing IE had one)
If things are off by two pixels leads me to ask if you are using borders. IE incorrectly places border inside of containers while standards compliant browsers place them on the outside of the container. Hence, if you defined a container's width at 700 px and have a 1 px border on the container, then you will have 698px of usuable space in IE; due to the border being placed on the inside.
Could you post a link to your site; right now I'm really just taking a shot in the dark here. It would help greatly if I could nose through the source.
Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?Originally posted by Mr Herer
Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?
DOH!!
Why didn't I think of that?? To obvious I guess, lol.Originally posted by Mr Herer
Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?
that's what i was thinking ;PIn the time I've been doing this sort of stuff one of the many important rules I've learned is to always check the face-slappingly obvious first. Then think about real problems.Originally posted by Mr Herer
In the time I've been doing this sort of stuff one of the many important rules I've learned is to always check the face-slappingly obvious first. Then think about real problems.
lol, so like w/ the manuals for electronics for trouble shoot where the first thing they say is to make sure the power plug is plugged in?
haha Precisely. 
Its not a resolution thing. While the resolution on the laptop is higher, it should still measure the same number of actual pixels. I can't post a link to the site as it is just being prototyped on my laptop at the moment and I am under an NDA. But when I bring the page up in Netscape and IE side by side, everything is about 25% larger in IE. If I take a screen cap and measure the pixels, Netscape is accurate, but IE is larger than it should be. Its not just text, its images also.
I have looked for settings in both IE and XP to try and figure out what is causing it to increase in size but have not been able to find anything. It may be something to do with the display being widescreen.
Any thoughts?Contact the manufacturer of the laptop not the Webdeveloper forumI just double checked the resolution thing also, reduced it down to the same as my desktop and IE still has the site too large. as an example, the image I am going off of in actuality is 154x23. When I do a screen cap of the site, IE has the image at 193x29. It seems like this is some sort of feature in XP as it does not do it under win2k.Will check with MS. Just thought someone here might have run into a similar problem before.Is there text involved?
Perhaps the fonts are different. XP has this interesting feature of changing things to make the display look good, like color depth and font sizes, that W2K does not do.
Also, check the View|Text Size menu to see if they are the same.
IE has a "enable automatic image resizing" feature under Tools|Advanced - multimedia.Make sure everything is blank under:
Tools->Internet Options->Accesibility
Also, read this:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/highdpi.aspyeah">http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau ... pi.aspyeah</a><!-- m -->, I found the highDPI article on msdn. That was the problem. Cute feature that microsoft doesn't give you the option to turn off without editing the registry. I don't remember asking microsoft for this. Apparently as an end user I'm not qualified to judge the necessity for this on my own.... Go figure.
Anyway, after resetting the dpi on my machine, everything is fine. It also fixed my errant 2 pixels since the image scaling is not an exact science.
Thanks for the input from everyone.
While I normally wouldn't care much, it is messing things up as I have a sizing error that isn't showing up in NS and I can't seem to track it down because I cannot measure against the PSD to find out where the errant 2 pixels are.
Has anybody else noticed this? Is there a way to turn it off? Is there a known work around for it?I'm getting mixed impressions here, so I'll try to answer them both.
If the entire site is 25% larger then perhaps a zoom has been enabled. (I did not thing IE had one)
If things are off by two pixels leads me to ask if you are using borders. IE incorrectly places border inside of containers while standards compliant browsers place them on the outside of the container. Hence, if you defined a container's width at 700 px and have a 1 px border on the container, then you will have 698px of usuable space in IE; due to the border being placed on the inside.
Could you post a link to your site; right now I'm really just taking a shot in the dark here. It would help greatly if I could nose through the source.
Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?Originally posted by Mr Herer Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?
DOH!!
Why didn't I think of that?? To obvious I guess, lol.Originally posted by Mr Herer
Your laptop not just have a different screen resolution to your usual PC?
that's what i was thinking ;PIn the time I've been doing this sort of stuff one of the many important rules I've learned is to always check the face-slappingly obvious first. Then think about real problems.Originally posted by Mr Herer
In the time I've been doing this sort of stuff one of the many important rules I've learned is to always check the face-slappingly obvious first. Then think about real problems.
lol, so like w/ the manuals for electronics for trouble shoot where the first thing they say is to make sure the power plug is plugged in?
haha Precisely. Its not a resolution thing. While the resolution on the laptop is higher, it should still measure the same number of actual pixels. I can't post a link to the site as it is just being prototyped on my laptop at the moment and I am under an NDA. But when I bring the page up in Netscape and IE side by side, everything is about 25% larger in IE. If I take a screen cap and measure the pixels, Netscape is accurate, but IE is larger than it should be. Its not just text, its images also. I have looked for settings in both IE and XP to try and figure out what is causing it to increase in size but have not been able to find anything. It may be something to do with the display being widescreen.
Any thoughts?Contact the manufacturer of the laptop not the Webdeveloper forumI just double checked the resolution thing also, reduced it down to the same as my desktop and IE still has the site too large. as an example, the image I am going off of in actuality is 154x23. When I do a screen cap of the site, IE has the image at 193x29. It seems like this is some sort of feature in XP as it does not do it under win2k.Will check with MS. Just thought someone here might have run into a similar problem before.Is there text involved?
Perhaps the fonts are different. XP has this interesting feature of changing things to make the display look good, like color depth and font sizes, that W2K does not do.
Also, check the View|Text Size menu to see if they are the same.
IE has a "enable automatic image resizing" feature under Tools|Advanced - multimedia.Make sure everything is blank under:
Tools->Internet Options->Accesibility
Also, read this:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/highdpi.aspyeah">http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/defau ... pi.aspyeah</a><!-- m -->, I found the highDPI article on msdn. That was the problem. Cute feature that microsoft doesn't give you the option to turn off without editing the registry. I don't remember asking microsoft for this. Apparently as an end user I'm not qualified to judge the necessity for this on my own.... Go figure.
Anyway, after resetting the dpi on my machine, everything is fine. It also fixed my errant 2 pixels since the image scaling is not an exact science.
Thanks for the input from everyone.