Ok i know nothing about SEO but i noticed when i look at my listing in google, after the site I get my shoutbox and my now playing text under my site name. Would creating some kind of hidden text put in text more valid to my site, or am i doing something completely wrong in my meta tag?Code: [ Select ]NEVER use hidden text. You can easily get your site banned!ouch, cool thanks for telling me thatIt depends on your definition of "Hidden"...There are many things on a page that regular humans won't see when they're browsing around, but Google will...The alt tag, for example, on images and the title tag of anchor links, etc.I honestly never bother with meta tags on the sites I do, I concentrate purely on content - both visible and invisible.Invisible (that is, it's in the code, but not obviously displayed on a web browser), can be just as important as the visible content on the page.well really what I need to know is what I can do to get my description relevant to my siteYou don't have any control over what description shows under your listing in google. It will display text from your page close to, or surrounding the matching terms that the user enters in to the search box.try it via CSS What can css do for the description?well thanks for the advice everyone, I think I am just going to leave it alone....prolly my best betI found this today in a competitor's page. Will this be detectable by a search engine?<body a href="http://www.theirdomain.net/" onMouseOver="location.href 'http://www.theirdomain.net/';">This code is in a page of moderately optimized text and links to about ten other similar pages. When the user moves the mouse over the page it redirects to the site entrance.I have seen pretty successful redirects on Gateway pages. One client's competitor has a huge keyword content filled gateway page which gets him into top positioning for over a dozen keywords. When the user does a search and clicks on his link, it takes the user to the gateway page, and if their mouse is pointed toward anything on the page, which it 99% of the time is, it immediately redirects to the homepage, so the user never really sees the gateway pages, while the search engine spider just reads the gateway page.This may be what you are talking about?Google hardly ever bans websites for hidden text. There are a great number of sites that I see that do it all the time and rank well.Hey Vetofunk....that's exactly it. This seems so primitive that I would think search spiders would realize this is a redirect. Do those other site ever drop in the rankings or get banned?webmastery wrote:haven't checked in such a long time, and now I see they are no longer there. I would like to think it was my spam reporting . They were number 1 for two of my phrases, "used telecommunications", which look who's number 1 & 2 now and "meridian phone systems".Here is what they did:http://www.craigcommunications.net/meri ... tem_d.htmlSeeing that they are no longer there, last time I checked was during the last update, I would not recommend doing it. If you have a competitor that is doing this same thing, you can try reporting them.Oh, and make sure your pointer is not on the site, put it way up in the corner....if you want to see the whole page, use your arrow keys to move down.