I am new, but I have to ask these two not-so-stupid questions.
Can someone answer these questions:
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written.
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Any thoughts/help will be most appreciated.
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written.
What editor are you using?
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Yes, you can edit CSS, just like HTML.I thought that when you looked in the "source" and if you don't see ...css... that you may not be using CSS. I mean, don't I need a program or something?it depends. some people include their CSS code in the text of the source. others use a seperately written stylesheet, which you'll see in the html of the page as:
<link rel="stylesheet" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/some_stylesheet.css">
if it is indeed listed like that, you can just go to:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.wherever.com/path/to/stylesheet.css">http://www.wherever.com/path/to/stylesheet.css</a><!-- m -->
when/if prompted, choose save, and open it with notepad!
hope that helps!Originally posted by Going It Alone
I am new, but I have to ask these two not-so-stupid questions.
Can someone answer these questions:
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written.
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Any thoughts/help will be most appreciated.
Are you speaking of the page/site that I see if I click on the www button at the bottom of your post?
If so, there are styles in the head section of the page for the links only.
You are correct, there is no doctype and if there were the page would probably have many errors in it.
If you have any other questions ask. If you want more help with your site, pm me.
MNSThank you for all your responses. I am going to look again and see what I am not seeing.
To: MNS, thanks for looking at my site, you are correct in your assumptions. I, however, want to achieve a listing in and good placement from the search engines and thought that would make a difference. I am going to investigate further the CSS positioning because I need for that page to load correct, fast and best of all, look good. Any ideas.Gunther, thanks for the reply. Now, I must ask. What was that link, it didn't go anywhere. Do you need me to try something else?Originally posted by Going It Alone
Thank you for all your responses. I am going to look again and see what I am not seeing.
To: MNS, thanks for looking at my site, you are correct in your assumptions. I, however, want to achieve a listing in and good placement from the search engines and thought that would make a difference. I am going to investigate further the CSS positioning because I need for that page to load correct, fast and best of all, look good. Any ideas.
There is no CSS used currently for positioning on your page. It has a table layout.
There is a possible reason you are not being seen by search engines. The <meta> tags are in the <body> section and need to be in the <head> section.
If you view the source code on the page, about half way down you will see these:
<meta name="keywords" content="Leather bags, platinum wedding rings, leather handbags, spa packages, T-shirts, leather boots, decor gifts, GIFTS">
<meta name="description" content="Find executive leather bags, spa gift packages. Shop at well-known clothing merchants featuring italian designer boots, platinum wedding rings, designer perfume. T-shirts with free shipping, leather jackets all at our Mall. Toddler clothing, toys and baby accessories, get them at Decorgifts.">
<meta name="title" content="Leather Bags-Platinum Wedding Rings-Leather Boots">
They need to be between the <head> and </head> tags at the top of the page to work.
To use CSS for positioning would require a new design/layout.
MNSTo get a good position in a search result, your Meta title and description along with the page content must be relevent to the subject matter that the user is searching for.To MNS and gizmo: Thanks for that.
To MNS: LOL. I have to tell you the most ridiculous thing I was told about my "meta tags" (and this is for everyone else too) Uh hm. The "company" that built my site and who hosts the site has told me that, "It does not matter where the meta tags are, just that they are there. Well, I thought that was crap seeing all the stuff I have read and is still reading. I don't have the capability of making that change, I am completely frustrated and do not know what to do - I can't change anything, I can't even add the LivePerson help I wanted to add throughout my site. I am only able to format pages I create and pages which allow me access to the htmls. I was told by them that the web masters who created the site cannot make those changes which I have requested.
Have you ever heard of such a thing?Originally posted by Going It Alone
To MNS and gizmo: Thanks for that.
To MNS: LOL. I have to tell you the most ridiculous thing I was told about my "meta tags" (and this is for everyone else too) Uh hm. The "company" that built my site and who hosts the site has told me that, "It does not matter where the meta tags are, just that they are there. Well, I thought that was crap seeing all the stuff I have read and is still reading. I don't have the capability of making that change, I am completely frustrated and do not know what to do - I can't change anything, I can't even add the LivePerson help I wanted to add throughout my site. I am only able to format pages I create and pages which allow me access to the htmls. I was told by them that the web masters who created the site cannot make those changes which I have requested.
Have you ever heard of such a thing?
No I have not but I have also never used "generated" pages before. Somehow, someway, someone should be able to edit them.
If I were you I would:
1) Find a new webmaster.
2) Find a new hosting service.
There are many places on the web that will allow you to make better pages and to make any changes you want to the pages.
MNS
Can someone answer these questions:
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written.
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Any thoughts/help will be most appreciated.
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written. What editor are you using?
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Yes, you can edit CSS, just like HTML.I thought that when you looked in the "source" and if you don't see ...css... that you may not be using CSS. I mean, don't I need a program or something?it depends. some people include their CSS code in the text of the source. others use a seperately written stylesheet, which you'll see in the html of the page as:
<link rel="stylesheet" href=http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/archive/index.php/"/some_stylesheet.css">
if it is indeed listed like that, you can just go to:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.wherever.com/path/to/stylesheet.css">http://www.wherever.com/path/to/stylesheet.css</a><!-- m -->
when/if prompted, choose save, and open it with notepad!
hope that helps!Originally posted by Going It Alone
I am new, but I have to ask these two not-so-stupid questions.
Can someone answer these questions:
How can someone edit their html's if they only have access to the actual copy/paste section of the editor and Not where the html is actually written.
Also, can anyone use the CSS positioning if they did not create the web page (which by the way needs HELP!!) The people who designed the page left out the Doctype and stuff like that and there all sorts of things wrong with it - not getting listed in the search engines is my main gripe.
Any thoughts/help will be most appreciated.
Are you speaking of the page/site that I see if I click on the www button at the bottom of your post?
If so, there are styles in the head section of the page for the links only.
You are correct, there is no doctype and if there were the page would probably have many errors in it.
If you have any other questions ask. If you want more help with your site, pm me.
MNSThank you for all your responses. I am going to look again and see what I am not seeing.
To: MNS, thanks for looking at my site, you are correct in your assumptions. I, however, want to achieve a listing in and good placement from the search engines and thought that would make a difference. I am going to investigate further the CSS positioning because I need for that page to load correct, fast and best of all, look good. Any ideas.Gunther, thanks for the reply. Now, I must ask. What was that link, it didn't go anywhere. Do you need me to try something else?Originally posted by Going It Alone
Thank you for all your responses. I am going to look again and see what I am not seeing.
To: MNS, thanks for looking at my site, you are correct in your assumptions. I, however, want to achieve a listing in and good placement from the search engines and thought that would make a difference. I am going to investigate further the CSS positioning because I need for that page to load correct, fast and best of all, look good. Any ideas.
There is no CSS used currently for positioning on your page. It has a table layout.
There is a possible reason you are not being seen by search engines. The <meta> tags are in the <body> section and need to be in the <head> section.
If you view the source code on the page, about half way down you will see these:
<meta name="keywords" content="Leather bags, platinum wedding rings, leather handbags, spa packages, T-shirts, leather boots, decor gifts, GIFTS">
<meta name="description" content="Find executive leather bags, spa gift packages. Shop at well-known clothing merchants featuring italian designer boots, platinum wedding rings, designer perfume. T-shirts with free shipping, leather jackets all at our Mall. Toddler clothing, toys and baby accessories, get them at Decorgifts.">
<meta name="title" content="Leather Bags-Platinum Wedding Rings-Leather Boots">
They need to be between the <head> and </head> tags at the top of the page to work.
To use CSS for positioning would require a new design/layout.
MNSTo get a good position in a search result, your Meta title and description along with the page content must be relevent to the subject matter that the user is searching for.To MNS and gizmo: Thanks for that.
To MNS: LOL. I have to tell you the most ridiculous thing I was told about my "meta tags" (and this is for everyone else too) Uh hm. The "company" that built my site and who hosts the site has told me that, "It does not matter where the meta tags are, just that they are there. Well, I thought that was crap seeing all the stuff I have read and is still reading. I don't have the capability of making that change, I am completely frustrated and do not know what to do - I can't change anything, I can't even add the LivePerson help I wanted to add throughout my site. I am only able to format pages I create and pages which allow me access to the htmls. I was told by them that the web masters who created the site cannot make those changes which I have requested.
Have you ever heard of such a thing?Originally posted by Going It Alone
To MNS and gizmo: Thanks for that.
To MNS: LOL. I have to tell you the most ridiculous thing I was told about my "meta tags" (and this is for everyone else too) Uh hm. The "company" that built my site and who hosts the site has told me that, "It does not matter where the meta tags are, just that they are there. Well, I thought that was crap seeing all the stuff I have read and is still reading. I don't have the capability of making that change, I am completely frustrated and do not know what to do - I can't change anything, I can't even add the LivePerson help I wanted to add throughout my site. I am only able to format pages I create and pages which allow me access to the htmls. I was told by them that the web masters who created the site cannot make those changes which I have requested.
Have you ever heard of such a thing?
No I have not but I have also never used "generated" pages before. Somehow, someway, someone should be able to edit them.
If I were you I would:
1) Find a new webmaster.
2) Find a new hosting service.
There are many places on the web that will allow you to make better pages and to make any changes you want to the pages.
MNS