I am not going to go into the awful details of WHY I have to keep dbase legacy support but none the less it is true. Every morning I am going to need to have a dbf file (or so I Though) update my mysql databse with changed user name information and at every night have the mysql database update the dbf file with any changes that have been made. All ready I am nearly certain this is not possible with php as it doesnt seem to support reading NTX files? Does anyone have more experience with this then what is on the php site where they basically tell you steer clear of dbase as it is the devil. I mean I agree with this but my backs kinda up against the wall here.. -shaunXcore