where can i get a list of common fonts? something that shows what the fonts look like. i want to break from my usual arial, verdana but still have something that most people can see.<!--content-->meanwhile, raise your hand if you can see Papyrus.<!--content-->a great place to start is Font Files (<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.fontfiles.com">http://www.fontfiles.com</a><!-- m -->) which is part of the BR network. (look for the purple letter "F" in the top navigation image). you might want to consider displaying the fonts with a css file, so the viewers wont need the exact font to view the pages with a defined style. or, you can also access and display the fonts from your site server, via css also.<br />
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and yes, i see papyrus
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chris<pixelmonkey>:monkey:<!--content-->i am using a css file for my stylesheet... how does that allow them to see the font that i want if they don't have it?<br />
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and how do i "access and display the fonts from [my] site server, via css also"? what does that do?<br />
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ps, i looked at that site, and i'm not looking to *Download <!--more-->* fonts, i'm looking for a list of fonts that people are likely to already have. stuff that comes with ms office and such. there is a list on the microsoft site, but it doesn't show what they look like. i guess i could make a page...<!--content-->You can use 18 diffrent types of fonts in your webpage if the visitors to your site have Internet Explorer installed.If you use any other font other than the 18 fonts then your visitor has to Download <!--more--> the font to view the page if your not using css.The list of fonts installed with IE can be found at <br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/Product.asp?PID=58">http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fon ... asp?PID=58</a><!-- m --><br />
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If you want to see how the fonts look.Then in IE click on tools > Internet options > Fonts. There you can have a preview of how these fonts look.<!--content-->The problem here, as I understand it, is that different platforms, operating systems, and even browsers have different sets of what are considered to be "standard" fonts.<br />
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The path you have taken with the CSS is the right one, just specify the font typeface you really want and then a fall back one and finally a "family" one.<br />
<br />
Here are the common css font families, which are considered safe:<br />
<br />
Courier New, Courier, monospace<br />
MS Serif, New York, serif<br />
Times New Roman, Times, serif<br />
MS Sans Serif, Geneva, sans-serif<br />
Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<br />
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<!--content-->There is another possiblity, and that is to use Download <!--more-->able versions<br />
of the fonts. And then specify them using a style sheet. <br />
<br />
Like just about everytthing else Netscape and IE do it differently,<br />
<br />
For IE <br />
<style><br />
@font-face { <br />
font-family: aname; <br />
src: url(<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.example.com/font.eot">http://www.example.com/font.eot</a><!-- m -->); <br />
} <br />
</style><br />
<br />
The Netscape syntax is: <br />
<br />
<style><br />
@fontdef url("http://www.example.com/sample.pfr"); <br />
</style><br />
<br />
Note that there are NO quotes on the URL for the IE version<br />
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Coverting the fonts to Download <!--more-->able format is not something I do so, you<br />
will have dig around for that information.<br />
<br />
Cd&<!--content-->there is a list on the microsoft site, but it doesn't show what they look like. i guess i could make a page...<br />
<br />
<br />
That's what I did. The following VBA Word Macro lists all of the fonts available to MS-Word. Unfortunately it cannot distinguish between fonts that came with Windows/Office and user-installed fonts.<br />
<br />
<br />
Sub WhatTheFont()<br />
Dim i As Integer, ThisFont As String<br />
Selection.Font.Size = 18 'say<br />
For i = 1 To Word.Global.FontNames.Count<br />
ThisFont = Word.Global.FontNames(i)<br />
Selection.Font.Name = ThisFont<br />
Selection.TypeText Text:="This line is in " & ThisFont<br />
Selection.TypeParagraph<br />
Next i<br />
ActiveDocument.Content.Sort<br />
ActiveDocument.GoTo What:=wdGoToLine, Which:=wdGoToFirst<br />
End Sub<br />
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<br />
<br />
Coverting the fonts to Download <!--more-->able format is not something I do so, you <br />
will have dig around for that information. <br />
<br />
The Microsoft information can be found at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.asp</a><!-- m --><br />
specifically, the Web Embedding Fonts Tool 'WEFT'.<br />
Mind you, I wouldn't bother unless you have a trademarked font like, say, The Simpsons or Star Trek.<br />
<br />
The reference to CSS was regarding the fact that Style Sheet authors can specify a list of fonts, and the browser will load the first one it has installed.<br />
For example, Microsoft first developed Verdana from Arial, then simplified it to create Tahoma. If your website looks great in Tahoma, you might say:<br />
font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<br />
which ensures all browsers will find a match.<!--content-->A artistic design site that talks about typography on the web... <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.wpdfd.com/wpdtypo.htm">http://www.wpdfd.com/wpdtypo.htm</a><!-- m --><!--content-->its best to stick with these for you content:<br />
times new roman<br />
arial<br />
courier<br />
verdana<br />
<br />
your headings maybe experiment with different fonts. but content should be as readable as possible.<!--content-->
<br />
and yes, i see papyrus
<br />chris<pixelmonkey>:monkey:<!--content-->i am using a css file for my stylesheet... how does that allow them to see the font that i want if they don't have it?<br />
<br />
and how do i "access and display the fonts from [my] site server, via css also"? what does that do?<br />
<br />
ps, i looked at that site, and i'm not looking to *Download <!--more-->* fonts, i'm looking for a list of fonts that people are likely to already have. stuff that comes with ms office and such. there is a list on the microsoft site, but it doesn't show what they look like. i guess i could make a page...<!--content-->You can use 18 diffrent types of fonts in your webpage if the visitors to your site have Internet Explorer installed.If you use any other font other than the 18 fonts then your visitor has to Download <!--more--> the font to view the page if your not using css.The list of fonts installed with IE can be found at <br />
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/Product.asp?PID=58">http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fon ... asp?PID=58</a><!-- m --><br />
<br />
If you want to see how the fonts look.Then in IE click on tools > Internet options > Fonts. There you can have a preview of how these fonts look.<!--content-->The problem here, as I understand it, is that different platforms, operating systems, and even browsers have different sets of what are considered to be "standard" fonts.<br />
<br />
The path you have taken with the CSS is the right one, just specify the font typeface you really want and then a fall back one and finally a "family" one.<br />
<br />
Here are the common css font families, which are considered safe:<br />
<br />
Courier New, Courier, monospace<br />
MS Serif, New York, serif<br />
Times New Roman, Times, serif<br />
MS Sans Serif, Geneva, sans-serif<br />
Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<br />
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<!--content-->There is another possiblity, and that is to use Download <!--more-->able versions<br />
of the fonts. And then specify them using a style sheet. <br />
<br />
Like just about everytthing else Netscape and IE do it differently,<br />
<br />
For IE <br />
<style><br />
@font-face { <br />
font-family: aname; <br />
src: url(<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.example.com/font.eot">http://www.example.com/font.eot</a><!-- m -->); <br />
} <br />
</style><br />
<br />
The Netscape syntax is: <br />
<br />
<style><br />
@fontdef url("http://www.example.com/sample.pfr"); <br />
</style><br />
<br />
Note that there are NO quotes on the URL for the IE version<br />
<br />
<br />
Coverting the fonts to Download <!--more-->able format is not something I do so, you<br />
will have dig around for that information.<br />
<br />
Cd&<!--content-->there is a list on the microsoft site, but it doesn't show what they look like. i guess i could make a page...<br />
<br />
<br />
That's what I did. The following VBA Word Macro lists all of the fonts available to MS-Word. Unfortunately it cannot distinguish between fonts that came with Windows/Office and user-installed fonts.<br />
<br />
<br />
Sub WhatTheFont()<br />
Dim i As Integer, ThisFont As String<br />
Selection.Font.Size = 18 'say<br />
For i = 1 To Word.Global.FontNames.Count<br />
ThisFont = Word.Global.FontNames(i)<br />
Selection.Font.Name = ThisFont<br />
Selection.TypeText Text:="This line is in " & ThisFont<br />
Selection.TypeParagraph<br />
Next i<br />
ActiveDocument.Content.Sort<br />
ActiveDocument.GoTo What:=wdGoToLine, Which:=wdGoToFirst<br />
End Sub<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Coverting the fonts to Download <!--more-->able format is not something I do so, you <br />
will have dig around for that information. <br />
<br />
The Microsoft information can be found at <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.asp">http://www.microsoft.com/typography/default.asp</a><!-- m --><br />
specifically, the Web Embedding Fonts Tool 'WEFT'.<br />
Mind you, I wouldn't bother unless you have a trademarked font like, say, The Simpsons or Star Trek.<br />
<br />
The reference to CSS was regarding the fact that Style Sheet authors can specify a list of fonts, and the browser will load the first one it has installed.<br />
For example, Microsoft first developed Verdana from Arial, then simplified it to create Tahoma. If your website looks great in Tahoma, you might say:<br />
font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif<br />
which ensures all browsers will find a match.<!--content-->A artistic design site that talks about typography on the web... <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.wpdfd.com/wpdtypo.htm">http://www.wpdfd.com/wpdtypo.htm</a><!-- m --><!--content-->its best to stick with these for you content:<br />
times new roman<br />
arial<br />
courier<br />
verdana<br />
<br />
your headings maybe experiment with different fonts. but content should be as readable as possible.<!--content-->