14 000 results, what pr is possible?

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The phrase that I'm working on has only 14 000 results in gogle and very few of the site in the results are actually optomized for this phrase or backlinks with that anchor text.If I could get 100 links from these sites how high could my pr go? March the phrase was only searched 38 times but I'd be happy if those 38 people came to my site. Not sure about the pr, I'm pretty sure that with 100 BL's I should be placed near the top of the SERP's. But could my pr go up to an 8, is that possible for a phrase so seldom searched?Dodgecroft, use:intitle:"search phrase" inanchor:"search phrase"in the same search in Google to get a more accurate picture of your competition for a search phrase.I dont understand what you mean by PR going up to an 8 for a seldom searched phrase. PR and search phrases are not directly related.I don't think they're related either. Right now we're at a PR4 with around 400 backlinks, and our primary keyphrase has us at a number 1 result out of 589,000 results. And it's a very generic term as well. In our case it comes down to relevence. We've focused on making it relevent to the content and it worked. (It also helps that it's the title of our site and domain) In fact most of our keyphrases that we've been working this method have in the last couple weeks increased in the serps. And it is showing in increased traffic from Google.What about the number of sites competing for the phrase?A simple example - my phrase that I want to rank for is "dlashgfdkfdg" and there are 9 other sites that relate to this subject but don't optomize for them. And I have links from them with my anchor text being "dlashgfdkfdg"! I'll feature at number one in the SERP's but would my PR get any higher. Or would I just have to get links from sites that might feature something similar or not at all. Surely that isn't fair?DodgeCroft wrote:OK we have a couple of issues to deal with here ...PAGE RANK is a measure of the number and quality of links to a PAGE. I have rarely seen a site get more page rank than the highest site linking to them (unless they have 10,000+ links to your page).PR is one of 100+ factors used by Google to determine SEARCH RESULTS. Relevancy and link text are also very important.Quote:My argument is that surely goggle won't stick with this for long. How can the number of links to a page prove that quality of that site.What you're saying is that all I have to do to get good PR is build up tons of backlinks from BS sites and a few relavent ones.I heard the other day that goggle doesn't register a link from a page named links.html or along those lines as a Backlink because of the abuse of this. I name me pages resourses.html fortunitely. Not sure how true this is but would make sense. So if this is true the next update that comes around most peoples BLs will be useless. So in effect this is a ongoing thing, getting backlinks from sites according to goggle's requirements.What's seems fasinating is that goggle have created work for thousands of people who all they do is to sit behind a pc and exchange links with other sites.Maybe we should start looking at LSI and begin optomizing in a different way.As imperfect as it is ... counting links does work...I don't accept 90% of the link requests that come my way --- and not every site I request a link from reciprocates. So there is some sorting going on --- even if we don't see the pattern. Sites with good "reputations" don't link with spammers.You mention a couple of myths about linking, none of which have ever been verified. I doubt links.html is a banned file name. ALL links do not have to be from related sites.Google is starting to track the history of links ... this will kill off those link spammers ... slow and steady is the way to go.rtchar wrote:Check out the discussion at http://www.ozzu.com/other-google-information-and-resources/new-google-patent-for-historical-information-t42297.htmlDodgeCroft wrote:Use your search phrase as the anchor text for your links and find a couple dozen sites (perhaps by buying or link exchange) to link to your site. Post in forums with your search phrase as your sig (linking to your site). That should do it!Good luck!That isn't what I said though. Gogle will index but the link from that page wouldn't be considered as a Backlink - wouldn't be counted and in effect won't improve PR.If you ask me it would make sense....Actually .... this does not make sense If a page contains links ... why penalize a site for naming a page correctly? I don't know where this myth started.